6.07: A Change Is Gonna Come (Live with Mary McCormack and Roman Mars)

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Mary McCormack joins Josh and Hrishi to discuss "A Change Is Gonna Come," recorded live in San Francisco. Plus, Roman Mars, host of 99% Invisible and noted flag expert, drops some vexillological knowledge. Special thanks to Professor Rebecca Nedostup for shedding light on Taiwan and China.

footnotes —
Roman Mars - Ted Talk on Flags
Eddie Izzard - Do You Have a Flag?
For your ringtone: an mp3 of Josh Lyman saying “No no, no no, no”