0.10: In the Writers' Room (with Paul Redford)

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We’re joined by Paul Redford, who wrote for West Wing Seasons 1–5, as well as Sports Night and The Newsroom. He’s responsible for some classic West Wing storylines, and we’re long overdue for a chat with him, so we’re making up for lost time with this bonus episode.

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2000 White House Correspondents' Dinner - West Wing Intro

6.08: In the Room (with Penn & Teller)

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Join us in the room to discuss "In the Room," in which the President’s need to be 'in the room' in China is the central topic of discussion in the room—President Room—the Oval Office. We’re joined by magicians Penn & Teller, who light a flag on fire in the (East) Room in this episode. Or did they? (They didn’t.)

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Penn & Teller extended flag trick
This American Life: The Oldest Trick in the Book
Alan Alda - SAG Lifetime Achievement Award

6.07: A Change Is Gonna Come (Live with Mary McCormack and Roman Mars)

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Mary McCormack joins Josh and Hrishi to discuss "A Change Is Gonna Come," recorded live in San Francisco. Plus, Roman Mars, host of 99% Invisible and noted flag expert, drops some vexillological knowledge. Special thanks to Professor Rebecca Nedostup for shedding light on Taiwan and China.

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Roman Mars - Ted Talk on Flags
Eddie Izzard - Do You Have a Flag?
For your ringtone: an mp3 of Josh Lyman saying “No no, no no, no”

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