5.16: Eppur Si Muove (with Dr Muller Fabbri and Jason Zengerle)

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They tried to get us to renounce The West Wing, but Eppur Si Puodcaste! Josh and Hrishi investigate some of the real world mechanics behind NIH grants and the federal judiciary with help from cancer researcher Dr Muller Fabbri and political journalist Jason Zengerle.

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UH Cancer Center
The Pablove Foundation

5.13: The Warfare of Genghis Khan (with Fmr. Congressman John Tierney and Jacob Keaton)

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A potential nuclear threat looms on the horizon, so let’s head down to the Situation Room to discuss The Warfare of Genghis Khan. We’re joined by former congressman and nonproliferation advocate John Tierney, who catches us up on nuclear politics then and now. And Josh and Hrishi manage to listen to the arguments of NASA analyst Jacob Keaton without him even having to take them stargazing or anything.
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Nasa - Spot the Station
Council for a Livable World
Man of the People: A Life of Harry S. Truman
Emotional Stuntman with Bradley Whitford

5.12: Slow News Day (with Eli Attie and Nancy Altman)

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Sleep in! We'll wake up the President for you to tell him about our great idea to record a podcast about the Slow News Day episode of the West Wing. Joining us in this historic endeavor is returning guest Eli Attie, who shares his memories about real and fictional West Wing attempts to build a legacy. Nancy Altman, president of Social Security Works, also drops by to tell us just how Toby's efforts compare to the real history of Social Security reform. PS: we had a data glitch while recording and lost Josh's mic audio, so his side of the conversation is not up to our usual standards. Sorry about that!

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Social Security Works
Nancy Altman's book: The Truth about Social Security: The Founders' Words Refute Revisionist History, Zombie Lies, and Common Misunderstandings
The Pact: Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and the Rivalry that Defined a Generation
Al Gore on the The West Wing set for SNL
My First Ghost, co-written by our own Margaret Miller! 
Rena's theme song